The full conformational search protocols of 4 and 7 were successfully carried out by NMR spectroscopy and accompanying molecular modelling; the global minimum-energy conformers of all diastereomers were computed, and the assignments of the most stable stereoisomers, Gtct1 for 4 and Gtct1 for 7, were corroborated by spatial NOE information relating to the H7a-H10a-H15b and H,H coupling patterns of the protons in the flexible part of the piperidine moiety. Additionally, mass spectrometric fragmentation was investigated in collision-induced dissociation experiments. The elemental compositions of the ions were determined by accurate mass measurements.